Unable to login into the forum with abrowser
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Hi all,
I'm unable to login and post to the forum with abrowser 33.0. My creditentials are correct as I can login in on another machine using firefox 34.0.5 as demonstrated with this post.
The strange thing is when I try to login in via the menu bar on the right I seemingly *can* login and view my account details and track history on the forums. However, when I then navigate to the forum page I'm no longer logged in! This is further demonstrated when I open a forum post that interests me to find I'm no longer logged in. When I then try to login to post a reply say I'm unsucessful. Anyone else experience such a perculiar issue. I'm searched the forums on this machine but to no avail.
If it helps, on my preferred machine I'm running the Trisquel 6.0.1 distro of GNU with as I said abrowser 33 and the following addons:
ABE
Disconnect
GNU LibreJS which has blocked one script
Greasmonkey
HTTPS-everywhere
NoScript but enabled on trisquel.info
I've also just noticed that the on the 'Create a Forum Topic Page' the subject and body titles are in Spanish rather than English yet I'm in the English (/en) subpage of the main site.
While I'm at it, I also want to bring it to your attention that the VLC Web Plugin returns a search result in abrowser but when one goes to install the extension a null result is returned from the mozilla page.
Cheers.
Perhaps try deleting the Trisquel related cookies and then try again.
Abrowser 34 is available on Trisquel 6. Some of the repositories are lagging behind and don't have the latest packages. You might want to switch to main (Spanish) repos.
The translation issue is normal and known. I didn't quite understand the vlc part but maybe somebody else will.
Thank you lembas. I've updated to abrowser 34 now. However, this was not the issue. The issue was that I was not allowing any cookies from any site. Happy to say I'm replying on my preferred machine.
With regard to the 'vlc web plugin' issue. If you search for that under addons abrowser returns a search result but clicking on the 'install extension' returns a not found from the mozilla add-ons page.
I use the viewtube greasemonkey script and it requires a video plugin to work and my player is vlc.
Glad you sorted the login issue. I filed a bug about the missing addon.
Try installing the package browser-plugin-vlc
i use icecat to browse the internet and disable javascript for privacy security and ethical reasons
i have to make a excepction to post on this website so i use midori to post
but i dont think i should have to do this
i am sure its possible to run a good internet fourm with just html5
is there anywere i can go to make suggestions to the trisquel developers?
if your interested in why i dont like automaticly run automatic javascript onpon4 made a good page about it:
https://onpon4.github.io/other/kill-js/
I am a translator!
tomlukey - this forum does not require javascript in order to post or upload a file!
I use icecat and have noscript on the most severe/extreme settings possible .. and this forum works just great. All it requires is a session cookie (I also disable all cookies and allow session just for the few sites I log into)
cheers mate!
i just asumed that it was the reason as on this
post it started working when nbd enabled cookies
i need to stop making asumptions
can you think of any reason why i cant login to my account unless i use a diffrent browser that has js enabled??
when i try and login it shows my profile information then as soon as i click on any other link i am signed out again
this only started once i disabled javascript so if its not js i dont know what it could be.
I never use JavaScript on this forum, so I can tell you with 100% certainty that you don't need JavaScript to log in or stay logged in.
Have you checked your cookie settings? If you're rejecting cookies, that might cause you problems. Rather than rejecting cookies, you might want to allow them, but keep them only until the browser is closed.
i enables cookies just on trisquel.info
and deleate them after i leave icecat and now
the forms work thanks for your help
but i dont understand why it needs cookies
can you even use cookies without javascript??
and i had javascript disabled
do php cookies get stored on the clients machine??
> but i dont understand why it needs cookies can you even use cookies
> without javascript?? and i had javascript disabled
>
> do php cookies get stored on the clients machine??
Cookies are set by HTTP headers. When the client requests a page it
sends the Cookie: header with data in it. For a server to "set" a cookie
it uses the "Set-Cookie" header. A client does not necessarily have to
accept the cookie (e.g. if cookies are "disabled" then the client will
ignore the header). All of this works entirely without JavaScript.
The PHP cookie functions causes the HTTP Set-Cookie header to be used.
There is also a JavaScript setcookie function which can be used to set
cookies without the "Set-Cookie" header, i.e. upon executing setcookie()
the client will send the Cookie: header with each request. But I don't
think it isn't used that much, except maybe by ad trackers etc.
I can confirm that the Trisquel website works without JavaScript enabled.
Andrew
As to why it needs cookies: it's just the most reliable way to tell the server that you're logged in, and who you're logged in as. Your IP address alone isn't enough to do this, because multiple people could be using the same IP address and it could change. You probably wouldn't like someone else to be logged in as you when they are given your old IP address!
The only other way for the server to remember that you're logged in, that I can think of, is to insert some sort of ID tag in the URL. Amazon did this in the past for its shopping cart; I don't know if it does anymore. The problem with this approach, though, is that it relies on you getting around by clicking the links on the page; for example, if I open a bookmark to a forum post, and this method was used, I'd find myself logged out.
There are many other cases where cookies are typically required, and when something fails because of cookies not being accepted, it can be hard to tell that it's a problem with cookies. This is why I accept all first-party cookies, but delete them when I close the browser.
well i learned somthing new about cookies today
i am using cookies on the trisquel website only
as the idea of data that identifys that you visted a website(as you got a cookie from that site)
being stored on your computer while browsing seems
like it could easly give away your privacy
how can you be sure what websites are acsessing your cookies?
> as the idea of data that identifys that you visted a website(as you
> got a cookie from that site) being stored on your computer while
> browsing seems like it could easly give away your privacy
>
> how can you be sure what websites are acsessing your cookies?
Indeed there are serious privacy concerns surrounding cookies, which is
why I would suggest configuring your browser to not accept them except
when you need to (e.g. login, use a shopping cart etc.)
Only the website (or the domain actually) can see its own cookies,
although the finer details on that are complicated.
There are tricks used by services such as Google Analytics for
transferring cookies between websites, use of third-party cookies and
use of HTTP referer headers to monitor what users do on many websites on
the internet (apparently approximately half of the most popular websites
use Google Analytics these days).
Using your web browser in private browsing mode should delete your
cookies each time you restart your browser.
Andrew
Using your web browser in private browsing mode should delete your cookies each time you restart your browser.
To delete them when the tab/window is closed, you can use this add-on: https://trisquel.info/en/browser/addons/self-destructing-cookies
I am a translator!
tomlukeywood - cookies are a major threat to your privacy.
in the preferences privacy tab uncheck "accept cookies from sites" and cleck on "exceptions" and enter "trisquel.info" and set it as "allow for session"
cheers
thats what i did!
thanks for the tip though
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